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It is high time to assign someone like Former Nato Supreme Allied Commander Retired Admiral James Stavridis as the US Ambassador to Turkey right now as that post has been empty since late 2017.To those of you who may not know much about US-Turkey relations I think there is much we all can benefit from his experience.Once you are finished with his remarks then you should investigate what the Turkish brigade achieved in Korea between 1950 to 1953 as part of the 22 Nation Alliance defending South Korea;against the North Koreans and the Chineese which is so much in all the recent news right now.If you fail to learn from history the price we all end up paying keeps increasing every day. 

Probably it must have been some fifteen years ago on one of my Anatolian tours one of my American guests who had fought in Korea could not stop praising the bravery of Turkish soldiers in the Kunuri Battle.He told me then if it was not for the Turkish Brigade the US forces would be taken hostage by the Chineese forces who had outnumbered them.That is why he had said at that time that General Mac Arthur had given those Turkish soldiers ''The Number One Fighter Award''.Here is more information for you from the internet source.

Subject: Turkish military forces in Korean War, 1950
ozdamar    10/2/2006 6:11:56 AM

The Turks in the Korean War The advance party of the Turkish Brigade or Turkish Armed Forces command, arrived in Pusan on 12 October 1950. The main body numbering 5190 troops arrived five days later, on 17 October. Brigadier General Tahzin Yazici commanded the brigade. Colonel Celal Dora was assistant Brigade Commander. When the main body arrived the brigade went into bivouac near Taegu where it underwent training and received U.S. equipment. The brigade was attached to the U.S. 25th infantry division so after limited training the brigade moved north to the Kaesong area to join the division. The Turkish Brigade has been the subject of the world's praise, by showing a very superior combat capability which provided our state with honor through the successes it won one after another during the three year period of blood and fire starting from the hardest and most critical moment it entered the battlefield until the signing of the "Ceasefire" agreement. Because addressing all the battles of the Turkish Brigades, however briefly, will extend the subject, we will just suffice to list the battles fought and briefly address the most important ones. The Turkish brigades, between the dates of November 1950 and July 1953, have fought the following battles the Kunuri diversion; the Kumyangjangni-Illi-431-639 -Imjin attacks; 22/23 April 1951; the Chorwon-Seoul diversion; the Taegyewonni defense; the Barhar-Kumhwa-701 attacks; and the Wegas defense battles. We will not just talk here about the battles accomplished by our Brigades--for the Turkish brigades have accomplished all their war tasks without default but about four important battles which affected the course of the war. And these are the battles of Kunuri, Kumjangjangni, Taegyewonni and Wegas. In short Turkish Soldiers played many important roles in the war, saving thousands of solders in UN forces. I am to add several of the brave actions of the Turkish brigade, as replies to this first topic. If you know some additional stories please add here.

ozdamar       10/2/2006 6:21:39 AM

THE TURKISH BRIGADE

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The advance party of the Turkish Brigade or Turkish Armed Forces command, arrived in Pusan on 12 October 1950. The main body numbering 5190 troops arrived five days later, on 17 October. Brigadier General Tahzin Yazici commanded the brigade. Colonel Celal Dora was assistant Brigade Commander. When the main body arrived the brigade went into bivouac near Taegu where it underwent training and received U.S. equipment. The brigade was attached to the U.S. 25th infantry division so after limited training the brigade moved north to the Kaesong area to join the division.


The Turks in the Korean War

(The Turkish perspective from "The Korean War -- a short history by the Turkish War Veterans Association.)

The Turkish Brigade has been the subject of the world's praise, by showing a very superior combat capability which provided our state with honor through the successes it won one after another during the three year period of blood and fire starting from the hardest and most critical moment it entered the battlefield until the signing of the "Ceasefire" agreement. Because addressing all the battles of the Turkish Brigades, however briefly, will extend the subject, we will just suffice to list the battles fought and briefly address the most important ones.

The Turkish brigades, between the dates of November 1950 and July 1953, have fought the following battles the Kunuri diversion; the Kumyangjangni-Illi-431-639 -Imjin attacks; 22/23 April 1951; the Chorwon-Seoul diversion; the Taegyewonni defense; the Barhar-Kumhwa-701 attacks; and the Wegas defense battles. We will not just talk here about the battles accomplished by our Brigades--for the Turkish brigades have accomplished all their war tasks without default but about four important battles which affected the course of the war. And these are the battles of Kunuri, Kumjangjangni, Taegyewonni and Wegas.

The Kunuri Battle

The United Nations Forces started to attack on the morning of 24 November 1950, under the command of Five Star General Douglas MacArthur with the objective being the Yalu River (Border Line). At this time the Turkish Brigade was constituting the reserve force of the IXth Army Corps, 3.5 km. west southwest of the town of Kunuri. The attacks of the United Nations Forces had easily developed until the evening of 25 November. However the attacks of the Chinese which started as raids on the night of 25/26 November 1950, created great surprise and confusion at the fronts.

When morning came on 26 November it was understood that the Chinese Forces had penetrated the front of the II'nd South Korean Army Corps situated in the Central Segment of the front and that they had stalked behind the U.S. Divisions situated on the western segment of the front. Especially the Chinese Forces, advancing towards Tokchon from the area of the II (Second) South Korean Army Corps had started to threaten the Eighth Army and specifically the IXth (U.S.) Army Corps.

Therefore upon the IX Army Corps advance the Turkish Brigade on reserve against the forces threatening its eastern side and back. After dusk on 26 November the Turkish Brigade began to march by way of the Kunuri-Kaechon-Sinnimni-Wawon-Tokchon. The Brigade was given the task of capturing the town of Tokchon. The Turkish Brigade had started to advance towards the battlefield having undertaken a very rare and heavy war task which reserves could ever meet against disproportional enemy forces and under negative conditions.

Having spent the night in Wawon the Brigade restarted to march at 0530 in the morning (27 November). As the units were crossing the steep Karill Yon Mountain and as the Advance Guard were descending on the Tokchon Valley (1430 hrs) the Army Corps gave the order "Do not advance any further and get on the defensive on the line which you have reached." General Tahsin YAZICI having read in the order the seemingly innocent and unimportant news "If you do not have troops in Changsangni, our aircraft have identified a force about the size of a regiment whose nationality is unknown" perceived a danger and ordered the Turkish Brigade to get on the defensive not where the Army Corps ordered, but on the Wawon line 15 km, back west. General Yazici's decision would take the Turkish Brigade back from the point of destruction and bring it to a point which would prevent the destruction of the allied forces.

Let us briefly dwell here. We have to show the degree of validity of the claim that "the U.S. general spent the Brigade by using it as a

 

 

 

ozdamar    Echoes of the Kunuri Battle   10/2/2006 6:24:46 AM

Echoes of the Kunuri Battle

"4500 soldiers in the middle of the firing line have known how to create miracle. The sacrifices of the Turks will eternally remain in our minds." - Washington Tribune

"The courageous battles of the Turkish Brigade have created a favorable effect on the whole United Nations Forces." - Time

"The surprise of the Korean battles were not the Chinese but the Turks. It is impossible at this moment to find a word to describe the heroism which the Turks have shown in the battles." - Abent Post

"The Turks have shown in Kunuri a heroism worthy of their glorious history. The Turks have gained the admiration of the whole world through their glorious fighting in the battles." - Figaro

"The Turks who have been known throughout history by their courage and decency, have proved that they have kept these characteristics, in the war which the United Nations undertook in Korea." - Burner - U.S. Congressman

"There is no one left who does not know that the Turks, our valuable allies, are hard warriors and that they have accomplished very great feats at the front." - Claude Pepper, U.S. Senator

"I now understand that the vote I gave in favor of assistance to Turkey was the most fitting vote I gave in my life. Courage, bravery and heroism are the greatest virtues which will sooner or later conquer. In this matter, I know no nation superior to the Turks." - Rose - U.S. Senator

"While the Turks were for a long time fighting against the enemy and dying, the British and Americans were withdrawing. The Turks, who were out of ammunition, affixed their bayonets and attacked the enemy and there ensued a terrible hand to hand combat. The Turks succeeded in withdrawing by continuous combat and by carrying their injured comrades on their backs. They paraded at Pyongyang with their heads held high." - G.G. Martin - British Lieutenant General

"The Turkish forces have shown success above that expected in the battles they gave in Korea." - General Collings - Commander US Army

"We owe the escape of thousands of United Nations troops out of a certain encirclement to the heroism of the Turkish soldiers. The Turkish soldiers in Korea have added a new and unforgettable page of honor to the customs and legends of heroism of the Turkish nation." - Emanuel Shinwell - U.K. Minister of Defense

"The heroic soldiers of a heroic nation, you have saved the Eighth Army and the IX'th Army Crops from encirclement and the 2nd Division from destruction. I came here today to thank you on behalf of the United Nations Army." - General Walton H. Walker, Commander, Eighth Army

"The Turks are the hero of heroes. There is no impossibility for the Turkish Brigade." - General Douglas MacArthur - United Nations Forces Commander in Chief

"The military situation in Korea is being followed with concern by the whole American public. But in these concerned days, the heroism shown by the Turks has given hope to the American nation. It has inculeated them with courage. The American public fully appreciates the value of the services rendered by the Turkish Brigade and knows that because of them the Eighth American Army could withdraw without disarray. The American public understands that the United Nations Forces in Korea were saved from encirclement and from falling in to the hands of the communists by the heroism shown by the Turks." - 2

December 1950, from the commentary of a US radio commentator The Turkish Brigade, as can be understood from the summary of the Kunuri battles and the echoes it produced in the world, had successfully accomplished its mission. The Brigade was proud to have informed the country of the news of success which the state and nation expected, at the highest level. A handful of soldiers had provided the state with power, great opportunities and esteem.

 

Now let us go back to our times and find out what Senator Tim Kaine thinks about the US presence in Syria:
 

 

 

Senator Tim Kaine says US strikes on pro-Assad targets in Syria are 'completely illegal' as lawmakers demand Congress take back war-making powers.

 

 

Tim Kaine, the Democratic senator from Virginia, says the Trump administration must receive authorization from Congress before targeting forces loyal to Bashar al Assad
 
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The drone was an Iranian-made Shahed 129, thought to be armed in range of US troops (File of American drone pictured)

'So I think this is a completely unlawful use of power.'

In a statement issued on Tuesday, US forces said the drone was shot at after it 'displayed hostile intent and advanced on coalition forces'.

One official said that the drone was shot down because it was 'assessed to be a threat.' 

The downing of the drone comes just days after a US F/A-18 shot down a regime warplane after dropping bombs near US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces fighting ISIS in the area around Tabqah, Syria, in the north of country.

The US says an SU-22 operated by the Syrian regime was dropping bombs on the Syrian Democratic Forces when it was shot out of the sky by a U.S. F/A-18E Super Hornet. 

This US Navy file photo shows an F/A-18E Super Hornet. The US says an SU-22 operated by the Syrian regime was dropping bombs on the Syrian Democratic Forces, a group that is aligned with the US, when it was shot out of the sky by a Super Hornet earlier this week
 
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This US Navy file photo shows an F/A-18E Super Hornet. The US says an SU-22 operated by the Syrian regime was dropping bombs on the Syrian Democratic Forces, a group that is aligned with the US, when it was shot out of the sky by a Super Hornet earlier this week

The downing of the Syrian plane angered Damascus' key ally and backer, Russia.

Earlier on Monday, a Russian warplane came within five feet of a US Air Force reconnaissance plane which was flying a mission over the Baltic Sea on Monday. 

According to the officials, a Russian Su-27 fighter jet, which was armed with missiles, 'rapidly' approached an American RC-135 reconnaissance plane. 

As the aircraft were flying side-by-side, the Russian pilot began to undertake 'provocative' maneuvers by flying 'erratically,' according to a US official.

In April, the US Navy launched dozens of Tomahawk missiles at a Syrian airfield from a ship in the Mediterranean.

The strikes were in retaliation for an alleged chemical weapons attack ordered by the Assad government against Syrians.

Although there is bipartisan support for Congress to debate and vote on a new AUMF introduced by Kaine and Republican Senator Jeff Flake, the measure faces stiff opposition.

Lawmakers have introduced war authorizations repeatedly in the past several years.

But they have failed to advance amid sharp divisions in Congress over whether, or how, to limit commanders' use of military resources.

US senators called on Congress on Tuesday to take back its authority to determine whether the country goes to war, saying recent US strikes in Syria were not covered by existing authorizations for the use of military force.

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee has begun considering legislation that would cover military action in Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Libya and Yemen against the Islamic State, al Qaeda and other Islamist militant groups.

'I have always believed that it's important for Congress to exercise its constitutional role to authorize the use of force,' the committee's chairman, Republican Senator Bob Corker, told a hearing on Tuesday.   

İstanbul,Türkiye 08 February 2018-17:30 local time.